Rhino 8 support

agustin_ichu

D-W Exactly, on the computer where I want to install it, I only have Rhino 8 installed, that's why it doesn't allow me to do it.
Thank you for the solution; I will reinstall Rhino 7 temporarily.

larchitect

So RN is installed and I am running the .NET Framework, but I don't even see that RN is available. No toolbar available.
When I try and install or fix install, my only option is to remove it. Any thoughts?

D-W

larchitect Install it using Rhino > Options > Plugins install button and find RN rhp file in the installation folder.

larchitect

D-W Thanks so much. Got it working. Only issue I see is I am unable to rename ecosystems/entities, etc, or change any parameters by typing in numbers. Obviously the core vs framework thing is a problem, but I see you're working on that one!

D-W

larchitect Mhm, I see that and this is again some weird Rhino 8 behavior, If you undock RN from the side, so RN panel will be in a floating window editing will work perfectly... What else I can say, again nonsense fixes have to be done...

[EDIT]: I'm waiting for McNeel response about that as the issue is indeed weird, in general, as a floating window its ok, when docked and dock is hidden (new small button on the bottom) - it will also work ok.

BEWARE! For some reason (unknown still) leaving the RN panel opened in the dock and closing R8 will pin RN to reopen when R8 is launched again and it hangs the entire Rhino. If this happens go to the installation folder and rename Rhino Nature.rhp - adding one letter for eg. - run R8 and close it and rename RN rhp back to the original. This is another weird issue with R8 new UI. Rhino 8 struggles to load RN panel at startup for unknown reasons as after startup and opening panel it works as expected.

D-W

OK! After consulting a few things with McNeel we found a way to bring UI back to the normal rock-solid state, so RN will get very soon R8 compatibility update including the installer thing, so everyone will be able to work normally, till the huge .NET Core rewrite arrives. Hope everyone will be happy with it!

MobaiLin

D-W I switched to .NET Framework mode, but after I updated the 1.03 version of RN, the Rhino8 version crashed directly on startup.

D-W

MobaiLin Yes, I'm aware of such issues, solution is in above posts. New version should be up next week, fixing installer, R8 support, .NETCore compatibility, plus some other fixes and features 🥳 Though biggest point was to introduce CN localization in UI but it looks like it won't be ready during next days 😐

MobaiLin

D-W GREAT!

sonaar

So let's see....

D-W

sonaar Not released yet. I'm doing the final checks and still waiting for the UI CN localization data set, UI localization handling was itself a huge rewrite, don't worry DE localization will also be included in the next updates.

MobaiLin

D-W After installing 1.04, 7 can be used normally, but in 8 there is no shadow at all. Don't know what happened

sonaar

This was more meant like: so let's see what the next week release date will finally be.

D-W

MobaiLin No shadow? Which shadow? Plus always leave some trace of which RH is used as seems that R8 is fixing constantly some issues with SRs, for eg in 8.3 RhinoDoc couldn't be achieved many times while 8.5 fixed this. Here RN with 8.5.24072.13001 seems to work quite well.

MobaiLin

D-W Sorry, "There is no shadow" is Chinese slang. It means that there is no rhinonature in rhino8.

D-W

MobaiLin Umm. Which SR please? Not at all even with .NET Framework? No _RNPanel command?

MobaiLin

D-W It is as if the software does not exist on rhino8. There is no panel and the commands are invalid.

D-W

MobaiLin Can you check if regkey is present? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\8a389ab3-a20d-46a9-a097-2afbd9b529b7 and if FileName within points to Rhino Nature.rhp

This should be handled by the installer so no idea, why you don't have it registered at all... Just checked the installer part responsible for that, it is identical for RH 5,6,7 and 8 (no typos or other errors) so should work as expected without any issues... It's weird as if I reinstall even on top of existing version R8 shows me window 'Preparing plugin for first use'...

NOTE: To solve it the quickest possible way in Rhino > Options > Plugins hit the Install button and find RN rhp this should do the work, which for some reason wasn't(rly?) done by the installer...

MobaiLin

D-W

MobaiLin

When I switch to .NET Framework mode, RN can be installed, but the software crashes as soon as I use gh.The symptoms feel the same as the previous version 1.03

D-W

MobaiLin Still I don't know which Rhino version it is... so far I can see this is Win 11, maybe some system info from Rhino? GH? How's that? If you are running RH8 in .NETFramework, and RN crashes it, but RN works in RH7 which is natively .NETFramework, then I guess it is time to start sending questions to McNeel, TBH I'm already frustrated with facing RH 8 issues which is completely unpredictable and seem to be prematurely released, while each time it is like working with fragile nitroglycerin.

To work further with your particular case please go to the Logs folder C:\ProgramData\Doliwa Workshop\Rhino Nature\1.0\Logs and send those logs via support email, include also Rhino info from _SystemInfo data, plus hit WIN+R shortcut type in cmd and in cmd systeminfo. With this data, I'll be able to reconstruct at least part of the environment to replicate this problem. Almost forgot, please include also GH version.

In addition, to be entirely clear all the below screens show the newest RN running under RH 8 in .NETCore :

So how it is even possible it fails to load under .NETFramework on your device?